Jane 08/07/21:
I am a few chapters in and finding this topic fascinating and I must say I am finding Don Juan a bit of a strange one 🙂
Laz 08/07/21:
Very strange, like weird to the point of it being enticing! He’s a cantankerous old man who makes me laugh out loud 🙂
Jane 08/07/21:
He uses a lot of ritualism that I know and understand is important to these native like shaman as it is all a part of the “theatre” they tend to perform in the matrix realm. That’s how it works in that world at that level of consciousness.
I notice that there is a lot of Don Juan’s own superstitions going on. He has some strange beliefs, e.g. to hold the belief that if a pipe breaks you will die is not what I would call someone who is mentally on solid ground but is rather a “victim” deeply affected themselves by the psychological black magic voodoo of their own culture. That stuff is powerful but only has power over a person who has been brainwashed into it’s beliefs. But that is how it is with many of these cultures.
Furthermore I would actually suggest that the teacher who “taught” him that albeit from a place of his own innocence or ignorance, has actually inadvertently used a form of shamanic black magic on his students mind! And this sort of thing just keeps getting blindly handed down?
Laz 08/07/21:
This is our human heritage unfortunately
Jane 08/07/21:
On Carlos’s mescalito trip Don was surprised that the ally played with him which was apparently unusual especially for a non Indian, I would have thought that most Indians having been raised with the knowledge in the cultural collective have been drip fed stories of such a trip in their life and so would already be influenced to a large degree by scare stories. The very knowledge of it’s potential effects would act like an expectation so things like fear and even the weeds possible rejection of the user could subconsciously and consciously influence the trip for a native mind.
Coming from a detached cultural perspective maybe Carlos had no such preconceptions with no knowledge (apart from the minimum scare stories he had been fed by don) he had a relatively pure open mind on the subject?
Laz 08/07/21:
Yes, as an anthropologist he was open. Although many say he made all of this Don Juan stuff up.
Jane 08/07/21:
So is this real? Did their encounter actually happen in the physical world? It does read more like a tale. So is it another myth like story?
Laz 08/07/21:
I honestly have no way of knowing. Certainly Don Juan ends up giving his knowledge freely and without any personal gain, as far as I remember.
Jane 08/07/21:
So I am confused.com lol. It does say it is seen as being fictional work so in that case whatever “knowledge” was gained came from Castaneda himself then?
Laz 08/07/21:
For me it’s a bit like the Bible, was it real or not? Does it matter? If the content enlightens then one has gained by reading it 🙂
Jane 08/07/21:
When it came to the devils weed Don’s inner male/female imbalance is quite evident. It is interesting that Don says that his benefactors ally was the devil weed but he himself didn’t like it. This devils weed “female” ally energy (as usual blamed for everything. Lol) gives increased power by way of things like intensified strength, vigor or sexual energy and sounds like Kundalini/Hara power activation to me?
Laz 08/07/21:
I mean the devils weed is a plant, Dartura Inoxia I think it’s called. Whether a plant could contain Kundalini or contain something that activates Kundalini in us is an interesting idea 🙂
Jane 08/07/21:
Don explained how there were several different aspects to using the weed and that you have to go through a process to tame it, it sounds a bit like different chakra stimulations? I know that when I do shamanics, use weed and am required to stimulate every chakra like I am a battery pack, it greatly increases the Kundalini energy in me and my ally is certainly no devil! Lol.
I believe it is how psychologically balanced a person is themselves that determines how the “ally” is firstly perceived by the user and how the user uses the ally and it’s energies. When pushed for answers on the subject of devils weed Don has said there was something that he personally did not like about her, when pushed further he said she distorts men, giving his own explanations including how under its influence he did weird stuff even killed a man? no details mentioned.
I wondered if this explains his apparent issue with things trying to kill him? I wonder had he practiced black magic himself?
Laz 08/07/21:
I’m not sure he would consider it black magic, I’m not even sure where to draw a distinction.
Jane 08/07/21:
Black shamanic art is done to manipulate from a place of non love and ego, self interest.
White shamanic art is done from a place of love and no ego involvement. No self agenda. I know that whatever it is that I myself have done has comes from source and is used for source purposes only.
Laz 08/07/21:
However later in the books his foe appears in the form of a witch called La Gorda.
Jane 08/07/21:
That is not suprising. Lol.
Jane 08/07/21:
Following the experiment with weed he seemed to get stroppy telling Carlos he spoke against him, Carlos seemed confused and asked how? He replied you came out defending her! I bet Carlos was like wtf? Lol.
I think maybe he was afraid of Kundalini. As he has pointed out that weed when used recreationally can act like Viagra on both men and women. When it is used alone in shamanics and for spiritual purposes it doesn’t. Maybe his fear was rooted in temptation and weakness?
The whole conversation about it between the two men is very insightful. Chapter 3. P56-68 in my book. By the end of the conversation I felt sorry for him and was left wondering does he ever take the plunge and overcome that psychological block/obstacle? I don’t know much about Castaneda yet but I just so happened to read a piece on your website where you have commented on Carlos and his overall attitude and perceptions regarding sexual energy. But as you also pointed out it was a long time ago, different attitudes and era.
As I say I have never used anything other than bud weed, so I am not in a position to compare the experiences of the other things people use. I have never had any desire nor do I feel any need to use any other mind altering substances. But I am wondering if those kind of far out for the mind experiences are only required for minds that cannot grasp far out like concepts without the trip?
Laz 08/07/21:
I don’t know, and I’m in two minds. One mind says some people need to be shaken out of their dull but stubborn confidence that nothing spiritual is real. The other mind says that these trips allow for connections to be made to spirits and other worlds, other consciousnesses.
Jane 08/07/21:
One of the indications for me of where my head is at now is that weed is no longer having any effect, my consciousness doesn’t change when I use it. That consciousness is a natural realm to me again. I have also not done any shamanic stuff for a while, but I don’t know if that has now stopped? because as with everything I really have no volition over that. Anyway, on this new topic I am really enjoying psychoanalysing Don Juan. Lol.
Jane 09/07/21:
In chapter 8 the first experience he describes of the little smoke brought back memories for me of my first encounter with cannabis resin stuff that I ate. I took just a tiny bit that I had found in my daughter’s bedroom. Lol.
I was sat downstairs watching TV, whatever I was watching drew me into being a part of the story, like I was actually there going into the TV! It freaked me out and I went upstairs to be alone. I was pacing around desperate for my daughter to come home and advise me what was going on. Lol. When my hands touched anything it felt like my hands were just going straight through it.
I lay in my bed and remember gripping onto the quilt with both hands and they went through the quilt I was gripping so hard like hanging on for dear life in an attempt to slow down what felt like something travelling so fast, I realise now it was my consciousness. The funny thing is that I didn’t get on with the weaker resin stuff. It made me nauseous. It also seemed to take me into the “paranoia” effect that can take over.
Later on I discovered that I had much better results from the stronger bud weed. Then the shaman word got bomb dropped into my mind and it started to make some sense. The other effects he describes about the little smoke sound more like coming from other ingredients like the mushroom?
More like a psychedelic acid trip to me. Not that I’ve ever had one. So do you remember your first experience with weed? How did it affect you? Were you using it alone or recreationally with others? I agree that old Don is hilarious, I too am laughing out loud as I am reading 🙂
Laz 09/07/21:
My first try was a strange coming of age thing, including sickness and a lot of coughing. Didn’t really enjoy it but it was like the cool thing to do!
Jane 12/07/21:
In Carlos’s experience with the devil weed plant he repeatedly rubs paste onto his forehead by “mistake” having been told not to. Don blamed the weed plant itself for that mistake telling Carlos that it was “her that made him do it”, Sounds familiar 😀
Carlos had experiences of light from doing so, that is obviously a reference to the crown chakra stimulation and the “voice” he encounters sounds like it was his inner guide. It made me laugh out loud when he describes arguing with himself.
Don’s benefactor had told him not to take the female plant into his forehead, warning that
“if the man is not a great brujo he will die or never come back from the journey as very few people return from such a journey, a man could be gone for months and have to be tended by others”
he then went on to say how difficult it was to return from the heights of what the plant could do to a human consciousness. To me death in a spiritual sense just means death of an ego not a person. I am also thinking that maybe those that don’t return end up something like the vegetated stone buddha types?
Laz 12/07/21:
Spiritual death to me is someone who looked, learned, and turned their back on spirituality for Materialism, and Nihilism 🙁 For those who get stuck in the other place, I would agree that they could resemble a stone buddha, or could become incoherent mental patients telling everyone what they’ve witnessed and none of it making any sense!
Jane 12/07/21:
I mean I get it. I definitely feel like I have “been there, done that, got the t-shirt” on this one! 😀 My consciousness was hovering in that kind of zombie like state for years but under the conditions I lived, isolated and in bed anyway it was just accepted. An example of how “gone” I was is that I could not ground my mind at all when in the company of other people, I did not notice things like my nails growing until they looked like talons, and I put on a lot of weight having been 7 stone and skinny all my life, the big shock revelation for me I remember was passing a mirror and I happened to catch my reflection and I was truly gobsmacked and didn’t recognise myself, I looked like I was wearing a fat suit! I focused my eyes and thought who the hell is that? I was 13 stone! I was like…. lmao.
I had an absolute minimum awareness in my physical realm world with no external interest, stimulation or interference and no recognition of external things like that I was gaining weight. I then went on to lose a lot of it again automatically later. I couldn’t believe that I had also become my physical body opposite of being so fat! Lol. I know that once I had reached that peak they refer to I had serious difficulty going back down, once you fully leave it is like you cannot get back but you really don’t have any concern about that because you are so far gone. But in my case I had no choice. I had a mission to do so had to connect again to the 3d matrix but to me I felt like I was being dragged down literally into hell!
Laz 12/07/21:
I was there only briefly, but I know what you mean 🙂
Jane 12/07/21:
I had become an alien being on this planet in every way because there is an energy frequency mismatch. Had I simply reprogrammed myself (reloaded)? as I have said I had made notes (albeit under strange circumstances) about my “mission” years before I got onto technology and contact with the outside world again.
Laz 12/07/21:
I think earth can be hell, or heaven, or a mundane boring place full of nothing. It’s a playground for the soul. I certainly do not believe that one has to die to experience hell, and like you say, when one comes back one is like an alien. I feel it to this day, and like you have had to reprogram myself.
Jane 12/07/21:
I often wonder if I have created what I write? Like writing down source instructions?
Laz 12/07/21:
I’ve wondered this enough and written enough to know that I am not creating the things around me, or the experiences I’m having, but it is like a chicken and egg, or art imitating life thought process.
But on the spiritual plane I think I can have some effect on the outcome of an event, if I keep it secret and don’t tell anyone.
Jane 13/07/21:
Ok so I am in two minds here, I am curious to know more but are you suggesting I do not ask? Lol.)
Laz 13/07/21:
So i’ve had a quick search and cannot find it, and it may be Castaneda or it may be Yoga philosophy, or something else, I can’t remember. However the idea is that one can communicate in writing without losing any power of the intent of the message, but if you were to speak it out loud it would lose all power. It’s like writing is a “locked chest of secrets” where you can write things like “I intend to change the outcome of the tennis final so that X wins” and that will have no dissipation in the world. But if you were to tell someone that you are going to change the outcome, it could never happen.
This is due to the idea that the spoken word has power that can be dissipated and nullified by others and their own power. It’s like that idea that we are all gods, and because all of us on planet earth are gods, we cancel out each other’s power, so we are all then dull creatures. However if you can perform some secret rite (and I think this is the idea behind occult groups) on your own and away from the masses then your magic works. However even with writing things down, if you are competing against someone else there is less chance that an outcome will go the way you wish. so it’s best to pick on things that others will likely think of changing, and change those things to your will.
Jane 13/07/21:
Yes I remember I intuited this, I saw it as a mind bubble of pressure that had to remain within the bubble, if the bubble pops then the tension that held it together is lost and it just dissipates.
It is like doing things in secret whether that be charity or healing, you don’t need to tell people what you are up to, needing others to know so that you get credit is another kind of narcissism. Of me I do nothing It is the source within that does the work. 🙂
Laz 13/07/21:
Interesting that you say about brainwaves changing speed, for the longest time now I’ve felt that my brain operates on a higher frequency than most, but did not consider the idea of slowing it down! Maybe unintentionally with alcohol but otherwise I wonder where the dial might be located? 🙂
Jane 13/07/21:
Do you mean operates on a higher frequency as in brainwave speed, faster? Or operates on a higher frequency of vibrations, like level of consciousness?
Laz 13/07/21:
I just meant that I am faster than most, like I get things quicker and understand concepts easier. For me the vibrations being higher or lower metaphorically is a bit of a metaphor, as I have not felt higher vs lower frequency vibrations with respect to good/bad intent, rather there is a wide spectrum of “communication” there to be felt.
Jane 13/07/21:
Maybe that is because you have always had a high frequency, you have never had a low level dense mind to compare it with?
I know that they say meditation is the way to slow brainwaves down. I have never considered myself a meditator, my technique seems to have been sensory deprivation. I would spend hours with ears plugged and eyes covered. (Oh and mouth shut! 🙉🙈🙊 :D)
Laz 13/07/21:
If you are able to go to a quiet place and isolate yourself from everything such that your chatter stops, then that is meditation 🙂 All the Aum chanting and crossed legs stuff is just window dressing!
Jane 13/07/21:
I think there can be a lot of narcissism in spirituality too.
It is still my go-to mode when required or my environment gets too much. Then I came to realise that on this path (buddha level stuff?) we learn to live and function in a sort of slower meditative state of mind. So I must have sensorarily deprived myself of the planet and out of the matrix then? Lmao
Not sure what you mean reference the slowing down with alcohol? Do you drink alcohol?
Laz 13/07/21:
I do drink alcohol, but not in the quantities of my youth, for the England game on Sunday I had one beer. So with the ingestion of alcohol ones brain starts to fail and stop thinking as well, and become stupid. If drunk, I could never have any fast inciteful thoughts, more likely its, “I hungry, need kebab” 😀
Jane 13/07/21:
Alcohol seems to affect me different because at times it can actually boost my mind and thinking. A vodka redbull works a treat 🙂 Ah, the munchies, I know them well. 😀
Jane 12/07/21:
I recognised the mythical paths in the archetypes I followed but found it a bit bizarre when I have also experienced modern day sci-fi film concepts that I had absolutely no knowledge of? It also felt like I experienced something similar to your novel that you created and wrote, in my real life experience after I had read it? …Lmfao, but seriously If you think too much about this stuff it can get a bit weird. Lol.
I explained how having my brainwaves sped back up felt like a mechanical mind thing going on over a period of about 2 weeks and was one of the most bizarre processes felt to me physically in my head , especially as it had taken years to slow them down. Like an alternating of changing gears. Then recently it was reverse engineered back to slow again. I had a short light session on Friday, it was different to usual because instead of going into open to receive download mode I was left to just carry on my usual slow processed thinking and my head kept intermittently lighting up.
Although I don’t remember what I was thinking about. Lol. Don emphasizes about not telling other people about your experiences whilst going through a shamans path and I have a feeling that my extreme isolation and autistic like mind was a part of that?
Laz 12/07/21:
Oh yes, he did. I can relate, but I think either him or maybe the Hindus advocate writing them down as this does not change things.
Jane 12/07/21:
There was definitely an invisible force at play. I couldn’t tell anyone! I couldn’t have explained it anyway…. lol. I know that I am a multidimensional being and I now feel I am back in that higher dimension but with a fully integrated consciousness awareness and able to communicate this time 🙂
Laz 12/07/21:
I must admit when you left that website a few years back saying something like you weren’t able to communicate any more, it made me sad, and I felt we had unfinished business 🙂
Jane 13/07/21:
Me too 🙂
Jane 12/07/21:
Don also talks about devil’s weed female ally being a path with great power but without a heart? That would come from his own perceptions and inability to reach and balance the heart chakra whilst under the weeds influence. Like he says it is a process of taming the energies. (Kundalini and the chakras ). Any power not connected to the heart will be misused especially in shamanics. He had a real problem with the feminine aspect, a reflection of his own inner imbalance. Reading his own experience of the plant it sounds like for him it sent him loopy (he went berserk, “scared the Indians” as he put it and supposedly killed a man?) after that experience he asked “what is it good for but to scare the Indians”.
Laz 12/07/21:
I think the path without a heart concept gets generalised later in the books, and is certainly a technique i’ve used, too ask if what i am doing in life is on a path with heart 🙂
Jane 12/07/21:
I had spent years working on myself shamanically and in preparing my mind and chakras which is why I think I had the experience of a Kundalini brain strike where it didn’t even touch the sides. (Lol, thinking of the dog image you sent me.) Looking at your experience and the energy body effects you had I think that you had already done the groundwork yourself too and reached the level of vibrations in ways of thinking and being that makes it possible to achieve an enlightened mind without the help or use of drugs.
Laz 12/07/21:
So my experience has always been one of return, I had to do the groundwork to remember what I was like as a child, and you are right in that I did do it and it certainly helped me with Kundalini. I think I was always enlightened but forgot it due to parental/school programming, and had to go through the awakening to “go back” to the source.
Jane 13/07/21:
Yes I recognised that, I don’t think you’ve ever been truly unenlightened. I don’t think you ever had a full on ego come in either?
Jane 12/07/21:
Your website entries you posted on people and pillars of lies are insightful, I like the way your mind works, you have the measure of humans as a whole as well as the measure of the individual man. I can see/hear your “purity” again Lol. it must be that mutation in you 🙂
Laz 12/07/21:
And I like your mind too 🙂
Jane 12/07/21:
Your comparison of vampires and narcissism was big picture spot on! Was that insight you wrote from personal experience?
Laz 12/07/21:
Absolutely, I’ve only been able to put it all together recently but have been observing, and getting snared for years. Most recently with that Lady I was working with from the organisation.
Jane 12/07/21:
I know you said your parents also have that kind of relationship and it is actually quite common in the realms where energetic opposites attract. In fact so much so it is being registered in the collective because I have actually seen it a lot as a hot topic of shared experience in online forums for a while now.
Ok, onto part 2. Structural analysis I am really enjoying this topic 🙂 What are you reading at the moment?
Laz 12/07/21:
Nothing, I’m actually looking for something new to read. I did start a book last year that I got bored with called The Gone Away World, but I gave up and think I may return to finish it 🙂
Jane 15/07/21:
I found this second part a bit long winded in explanation and hard to follow in his structural analysing. It mentions that both Don and his teacher had been black sorcerers in the past and I had wondered if that was the case and what caused him to kill a man under the influence of weed and or subsequently become somewhat paranoid about things out to kill him and did seem psychologically subjected to such dark arts himself. It could be that the dark stuff sorcery done by Don and his teacher was done using what they describe as “devil weed” hence the term given. But I agree that the factual knowledge of both aspects of black and white is required. (Good and evil) And I guess its all a part of the temptation on the shamanic path as with any other.
The subject of the “ally”. Don says “a man of knowledge has an ally whereas the average man did not and having an ally was what made him different from ordinary men” could he be referring to the asleep versus the awake?
He also says an ally is “a power capable of transporting a man beyond the boundaries of himself” it is described as a vehicle and helper. I would say that I definitely found my ally in weed to make contact with the source but there is no longer need for weed for the connection as it is a direct line. I would also say that as you made your connection to communicate with source on your own. you had no need for such an ally as the direct line to source was within you without the need for weed to find it. For a person who is spiritually evolved I see the ally as something that comes from within themselves and Carlos does say…
“the exclusive method of inducing a meeting with the ally was, naturally, through the appropriate use of the plant in which the ally is contained.”
Nonetheless, Don hinted that at a certain advanced stage of learning the meetings could could have taken place without the use of the plant; that is to say they could have been elicited by an act of volition alone”. So a full on awakening would not require such an acquired ally because that would be like a direct line to ones own spirit guide?
But the drug induced ally path would be uncertainty and foreign to a person until recognised, tried, tested and trusted and known through a lengthy process. Or have I got it wrong in that an ally is different to a spirit guide and specific to shamanics?
Laz 15/07/21:
The ally is an odd concept that I’m not sure I ever really understood. It is both plant, intoxicant, and a personality/spirit. I went to my beginners guide book to see if it would offer any help, but I don’t think it really helps!
Jane 15/07/21:
It actually did, and I do like that kind of image presentation. I don’t suppose I have read enough yet to get a proper perspective.
“An ally is formless, percieved as a quality is tamable and had a rule”.
So I understand what is meant by being tamable, as I have already explained that to me means finding the balance of the chakras as Kundalini energy moves through them. but I would suggest it is not the ally as such that needs taming but the individual persons mind, thoughts and consciousness reactions to the effects of the ally energies as a kind of training and testing ground via a process in the activation and stimulation of all chakras and that includes the lower part of the man.
I guess as with everything it all depends what stage or level one is at. As I have said I think that Don’s own perceptions of the female plant are so imbalanced and distorted of things like being violent and unpredictable due to his own experience and as such he would never have been able to successfully tame it within himself and therefore saw it as untamable. Don says the path of the feminine weed is not a path of the heart but I know otherwise : ) I cannot state as a categoric fact of truth but I still have a feeling that Kundalini energy is neither male nor female but neutral in vibrational frequencies or maybe a perfect indistinguishable mix of both and only as it works through a human system in the dual realm of mind male/female does it become subject to the anthropomorphic type human mind filters in qualities, characteristics and things like gender in perceptions? As in it’s all in the mind of the perceiver. But I guess that could be said about everything?
Laz 15/07/21:
You may be right, I have not felt any gender from it directly, but have been compelled to call it female. Although it did temper my more male characteristics, so perhaps it appears as is needed to balance an individual.
Jane 15/07/21:
As for the rules they don’t really mean anything to me because I wasn’t volitionally following any specific rules because I have not put free will into shamanics so I was directed to do whatever automatically. No thoughts or considerations were given to things like rules. As long as it was coming from the will of the source that was my one and only rule and that was my flow. Life is so different to that of the ordinary person when you have no self will and they just don’t get it. I guess it’s one of those things that if you do not have experience of it is impossible to understand.
Laz 15/07/21:
Yes! I laugh so hard when people try to work out my play, scheme, ruse, agenda, as I don’t have one and their ego’s do not comprehend 🙂
Jane 15/07/21:
This made me laugh out loud because I could just imagine it. 😀
Carlos does explain what I call the “theatre” that is performed by matrix shaman, steeped in deep rituals along with things like hypnotic auto suggestion. Complete and utter manipulation of another persons mind. They really do put on a show but it is vital that ethics and accountability have to be foremost. But even they come in gradients depending on the individual practitioners level of consciousness and ability. As I have previously said that shaman I saw completely off his head on drugs and alcohol drilling a whole into a persons physical head to cure demons was well out of his depth! Lmao.
It is said that if a shaman fails to cure a condition that they have taken on to tackle, then they themselves become afflicted with that very condition, and take on the demons themselves, i.e. become them. lmao. I think it’s all very different for those of us who have not used the pathway of having a separate external teacher. That means no human guidance and that can be more or less beneficial, but knowing full well just how hard it is I would suggest that it is only the strongest who can do it successfully alone.
Laz 15/07/21:
I’m not sure strongest is the best term to use, but I agree. Perhaps “the most honest”? is a better fit where being honest with yourself and others itself requires strength of character.
Jane 15/07/21:
Just to clarify, yes that is what I meant 🙂
Laz 15/07/21:
I think it’s all about that ego again, teachers are best when they write down all their knowledge for others to learn from, and effectively take themselves as a human entity out of the equation, and at their worst when they are lording over their congregation, and lapping up the worship. And for the leader’s flock they are actually never going to reach the same heights as the guru will not let their minions supersede them!
Jane 15/07/21:
Yes the big red flag sign of a bad teacher. A genuine teachers aim is for their student to supersede them, that is the whole idea!
I can absolutely understand why the majority of the masses need that “guru” (below 600) the good thing is that by doing it alone ensures that no influences from any teacher can come into play because a lot of teachers, as in Don’s case do not have clear open minds themselves and so come with their own beliefs and baggage and yes some are even narcissists.
Human minds including those of a shaman are programmed through the many limiting veils and filters within a persons mind and consciousness, and as this continues as a loop cycle through blindness of self perpetuated brainwashing how can they even see it?
This is a part of the idiocracy I see. But as David Hawkins said people do need to “go out of their minds” in order to find enlightenment. I would say without a doubt that my old dinosaur rigid mind would never have gained the absolutely necessary openness and flexibility required for my path without the benefit of the weed and I also think it is a generational thing in the progressive evolution of consciousness. As in people born in the younger generations are born of different stuff. Or at least some of them. Born of a higher vibration.
I remember one time in the early years I reached a point where I saw the bright light as more of a “flash” got absolutely overwhelmed by where my consciousness was and what I was perceiving in that moment and in fear like panic, I felt my whole being pull back thinking I am just not ready for this. Lol. As you pointed out…
Jane 15/07/21:
I think plant use is for those who need that bridge of the weed/ ally to higher consciousness and are not like yourself
Laz 15/07/21:
Hmmm, I’m not sure of the link but I’ve sure tried a lot of different drugs. While I was not on anything for years before my awakening I can’t help but wonder if they contributed.
Jane 15/07/21:
When you read this stuff about Don Juan and Carlos and plants or the analysis can you relate it to your own path in any way?
Laz 15/07/21:
I find it difficult to separate my journey from Castaneda’s writing, as it formed such a big part of my experience. I am on the path of the man of knowledge! You must already recognise concepts from my book Drew Juna, as events from Carlos’s books? I basically tried to reframe a lot of Don Juan’s words into the modern era. Drew = Carlos/me, Genard = Don Juan 🙂
Jane 15/07/21:
Do you recognise aspects of the drug trips from your own non drug experiences?
Laz 15/07/21:
I’ve never had the trips like Carlos describes, with maybe the exception of the Guardian of the Underworld one. I own a Peyote cactus and have always said I’ll eat it one day, and I’d like to try Ayahuasca one day too.
Jane 15/07/21:
I wouldn’t have a clue.