Jane 02/06/21:
O.K. so I am firmly back in my own place again but as yet I do not know what the coordinates are? Lol. Like I say, I can clearly define phases on my path by my experiences. Some in weeks, months and others in years, now I have got my head around it I can now explain the final experience of the 7 year cycle that just ended, because I was simply surrendered to doing God’s will, albeit in a messed up world.
I held on to my knowing that “everything happens for a reason!” and.. “out of chaos eventually has to come order”, and finally it did.
Laz 02/06/21:
That’s one of those phrases that I don’t really understand, and tend not to investigate because of it’s links to Masons and such. I most often come across the Latin version of it “Ordo Ab Chao”. I know that it is at the moment a key point that political pundits site as what is going on around us in the world, but I’m thankful that I do not see it happening where I live and people are all still getting along like they should. My lack of understanding comes from the insistence that it is correct, and that chaos is unnatural and that only humans can impose order upon it. But I’m not going down that rabbit hole as previously mentioned.
Jane 02/06/21:
I don’t link anything to things like the Masons anymore. Political pundits use any catch phrase to their advantage. I am talking more on the scientific lines when seen from the scale of the universe this is what happens. Chaotic energies, frequencies, vibrations will over time organise themselves into order, that is how the cosmos formed. What happens on a macrocosmic scale happens on a microcosm one, well that was my theory anyway and it worked for me. I agree with you that chaos is natural and humans can not impose anything. Only arrogance makes man believe that.
Jane 02/06/21:
I just sat back and watched how source and Kundalini works! Like in action on me… mentally and physically. I used to go by the conceptual understanding of the chakra system in what I experience physically from Kundalini energy, but I found that for some reason I have switched to the reiki hara line concept in order to better understand this specific Kundalini experience.
I think I have already told you some of this but for the past few weeks I was having experiences again that I can recall from the past. After my matrix ordeal was over I was so desperate to get back to my old world/mind/realm/dimension, whatever you want to call it, I wanted it back! Lol. (consciousness that I held before having to “ground” into the matrix to interact again with people in it! )
I vaguely remembered that “place” but I didn’t know when or where that was, so in my mind I kept saying the words “take me back to the last stable settings”….. it turns out that it was 7 years ago and I have come full cycle. Yay! Phase really has ended. I recognised that it was a trusted process I was going through coming via Source so I remained surrendered and simply watched. My only intention was to do whatever it took! In body.
I got frequent strong electric,(or maybe electromagnetic ?) energy go through the belly centre, like an electrode touching you it makes my whole body “crunch”, if I am standing up it makes my legs buckle and almost knocks me off my feet. I used to get it a lot years ago. It’s like a muscle contraction in my belly being held for between one and ten seconds. It then disperses through my body cells.
Laz 02/06/21:
I’m pleased for you and hope you find stability and security in your own mind. That’s all I have in mine at the moment, there’s literally nothing interesting going on with me spiritually, no Kundalini surges, no insight, no interventions by other consciousnesses, and I’m a little bored. Before I’ve felt like I’ve been waiting for something, but now I just feel cast out, like I’ve done something wrong. But my experience has showed me to wait and just enjoy the silence! So I’ve been working, and reading, and watching, and just doing mundane stuff.
Jane 02/06/21:
I am so sorry to hear that is how you feel. I can relate to that feeling of having done something wrong, I have been there many times. I always find consolation in the fact that whatever I have or have not done it’s not my will, so… 🙂 If you are bored and into reading then maybe we could find topics for discussion? Keep our minds active.
Laz 02/06/21:
My great reckoning with Covid rules seems to have been postponed and truth of matters around the world seems to be coming out now. Maybe my job this time around was not to be perturbed by the events around me and to maintain my stoic position on everything, and that tallies with my experience and may have been a test in itself, but after the spiritual stuff I’ve been put through, it was one I was never going to fail now.
Jane 02/06/21:
Some times it felt like the energy was solidifying my core. It’s hard to explain but then I read that the hara line can be made thicker and it does kind of feel like an accurate description as to what I felt was happening this time. I had a couple of short downloads via light and now the dimmer switch when I close my eyes to sleep has been dialed up a bit so it is a bit brighter. I experienced those moments of “pure bliss” feeling in every cell of the body. (I don’t know why but I am not comfortable with that ecstatic like sensation if it goes on for too long?) Fortunately this time it was just short bursts.
Laz 02/06/21:
May I ask what it is about a lengthy bliss state that bothers you?
Jane 02/06/21:
I don’t know how to explain it. I get two types of what I call “ray” energy. It’s almost like being tasered. One type is like an intense orgasmic energy the other a pure bliss sensation, depending on the chakras, I guess? Neither of which I can tolerate for too long. It almost feels like too much of a good thing to the point of discomfort to me? I can honestly say it gets boring, lol. Like lets just move on now. 😀 I have wondered if that “ray” is what we experience in the moment as we leave and die. Like that energy is what we connect back to as we flow back to Source? Don’t laugh, I don’t know it was just a theory 😀
Jane 02/06/21:
I did a lot of movement and relaxation work on my body cells. Also as I am going to sleep I start to vibrate. I notice it most as I am drifting off or as I am waking up, this core centre will vibrate until I am fully awake. The interesting thing about the body vibrations to me is that they feel totally and noteworthy different from before in that it used to be felt as if I was being vibrated, by something other than me, now it is a sensation that I am the core that is vibrating.
Sounds insignificant but a huge difference in actual factual bodily experiences. In mind. I even imagined it as visions like this; cogs turning in my mind changing to the required positions of thought energies and frequencies. I could recognise mind maneuvers going on in thoughts and ways of thinking, it was like my consciousness/mind was being micromanaged for docking back into that perfect “position” for balance. My mind would shut down and be empty for periods of time. It was fascinating for me just surrendering to source on autopilot and allowing Kundalini energy to do it’s thing. Literally knowing this time it was a case of “input data, run known programme”
At one point I did an old breathing technique, but just the once. It was this, Breathe in, breathe out x3. Breathe in what I need, breath out what I don’t need, x3 Breathe in and absorb what I need, Breathe out and let go of what I don’t need x3. I spent many hours in forced sensory deprivation due to environmental conditions. Ear plugs into silence (Every road, path and street is being dug up around me by virgin media and the mowers have been out in force!) I did some shamanic stuff on myself but as always, with no other intent than God’s will.
I explained to you how 7 years ago I experienced a whole process of my brainwaves being speeded up during my forced grounding, this time it was like the process was in reverse slowing them back down. Reverse engineering? Lol. It was so weird to me because I could actually feel myself getting back my own centre of gravity.
Then I came across this…
“Located below the belly button and a little way into the body, the Hara is the same distance to the feet and the head. Physically it’s our center of gravity. Because it’s a vibrational center, the Hara is also a spiritual center.”
Laz 02/06/21:
It is interesting to be what you say about the Hara. I have experience of the location, but did not know it had a name. I’ve always suffered from indigestion problems and was taught by a lightworker to apply pressure to that area to relieve it, and have been doing so for years. I’ll have to look into that and do some research myself 🙂
Jane 02/06/21:
I have spent my whole path not really understanding such experiences that have themselves come in phases. It all depends on where my conscious awareness is. It is in non-duality again, now. If you take a 3 pin plug as an analogy of the electric current passing through a human, where the electricity/energy runs through the negative wire or positive wire,(the male or the female wire) or the neutral wire. Isn’t that the same as the Sushumna and the polar opposites of Pingala and Ida? I’m not sure.
Laz 02/06/21:
I struggle with that explanation a little, I was taught that Ida and Pingala were both negative Nadis, and only the 4 Nadis of Sushumna were good. Also the wiring of electrics tend to have live and neutral pins as opposite each other and the earth is in the middle, so I can’t quite get my head around it, sorry.
Jane 02/06/21:
In non duality, when not required the energy is cut off from the two out branches of opposites and only runs through the neutral wire and when sustained that channel feels “thicker”. If that makes sense? It is actually then the path of least resistance. I guess it is what they call the androgynous state of mind?
Anyway, as I say I last was in this “place” 7 years ago, before my “forced” grounding and before I got into technology and went on line. The rest is history as they say. The only difference between 7 years ago and now is that this time I have technology to communicate 🙂 So now I am back to my own centered place/space. Like a return to base. I had forgotten just how quiet and detached my E.T mind used to be. But I have to admit that it will be interesting to see what Source has in store for me next? ( just please Source can it not involve the matrix realm again .lol.)
But seriously Laz I do think that I did go too far because it is just not possible for me to get back to the matrix properly at all!
Laz 02/06/21:
Being where you are is good, right? Like my mundane state of being 🙂
Jane 02/06/21:
Absolutely, I feel like I am “home” again. I don’t care that I went too far, it’s what I was meant to do.
Jane 02/06/21:
I look out the window and realise it has been two decades since I drove on roads or walked on paths it is so surreal to me that it is irrelevant to the point of not there! I just close the curtains and block it out. People who attain 5d consciousness should still be able to function and live,” in the world but not of the world”, but I can do neither no matter how hard I try, so the only conclusion is that I don’t think I am meant to?
Laz 02/06/21:
I think a lot about being in the world but not of it, and for you I guess it is more appropriately “not in the world, or in it” 🙂 I am just surrendering to the will of the source as we have previously discussed, and letting the universe guide me.
02/06/21:
Ditto! As ever, the best laid plan. Lol.
Jane 02/06/21:
Laz 02/06/21:
I can’t say I’m a big fan of Bowie, and don’t like much of his discography, but do like this one mostly because of the TV show of the same name 🙂
Jane 02/06/21:
I am not a fan of anyone, I pick songs to communicate and specifically for the words. I laughed all through that version you sent.
Laz 02/06/21:
So, a topic that came to mind the other day and I wrote a page on it, and then I subsequently read a chapter in my book that covered the same thing, is that of denial represented as a monolith. Have a read and let me know what you think about this idea:
Jane 02/06/21:
Yes, I think that is brilliant, a very good write up. It is clearly understandable 🙂
So, if it is denial then isn’t that the same as the subconscious? Where the monolith and its size represents its contents? Undealt with it just gets bigger, as you say in the shadow of the psyche.
I have seen the metal ones appearing around the world and hoax or not there is a symbolic reason for the phenomena so it does kind of tally with them representing the collective subconscious…in denial?
Yes I agree that the majority of human beings have some underlying mental health issues. The collective crazies, lol. Bless them, I’ve been there.
What book were you reading on this and what chapter? I can’t find anything and It is so much easier to have discussions if we have a shared fund of information 🙂
Laz 02/06/21:
I’m not sure it is the same as the entirety of subconscious as I perceive that to be neither good or bad. I would say it is the part of subconscious that people intentionally put there as they cannot face it. And it comes back to haunt them.
Yes, the more is shoved in the void, the bigger it gets.
The book is Beyond Order by Jordan Peterson, it’s really good and as a sequel I’m enjoying it more than his first 🙂 The chapter is number 3.
Jane 02/06/21:
I am going to get a copy from Amazon. I prefer books. Lol. Whilst I am at it is there any other reading recommendations you have that you think could benefit our discussions?
Laz 02/06/21:
Not any new stuff but those Castaneda books I sent you before really shaped me 🙂