Laz 27/07/21:

So I’ve just watched the new Ghostbusters trailer, and I freaked out at this bit (shown in the image) when I saw it. I was like in shock and suddenly felt fear.

I know this pit, I’ve stood on the edge of it too, this must be an archetype I wasn’t aware of!

Jane 27/07/21:

Is that not a visual representation of the “hell” fire, the battle with the “devil”? Is that not just a part of the good v evil archetype? 

Laz 27/07/21:

So i’ve not literally stood at the edge, but in my kundalini experiences I “went” there:

“I can see of any settlement is a small collection of crude wooden shelters near the quarries edge and I rather feel that I have travelled back in time to the Neolithic age itself. There is no human presence in this vision which seems strange to me but what is clear is that the significance of David’s warning to me earlier is manifest before me now. As I watch this scene before me I hear a deep rumbling like that of a heavy stone being dragged across the ground. It seems to be coming from the pit nearest to me so I creep forward to look over the lip and as I do a rush of steam comes from the pit, it is hot and it scolds my face and my hands as I raise them to protect myself, and I stumble back. From in the pit I can now hear scrabbling noises like something is climbing out of it and finding it difficult to get a foothold on the rough and loose edges of its rocky hole. As the steam slowly clears I perceive something is standing on the edge of the pit and its breathing heaves up and down as it recovers from its long climb from deep below. I continue to walk backwards until I trip into a spoil heap and fall on my rear.I think that I should be fearful, but for some reason I am not, and as this thing steps out of the steam to reveal itself I feel the now familiar electricity rush through my body and I briefly remember that I am still lying on the bed next to my daughter.”
“Is that not just a part of the good v evil archetype?”

It is, it’s Biblical, but I’m just not used to seeing the representation visually! 

Jane 27/07/21:

I had tagged a conversation in emails in may :  i asked…”If not, would you say that you are you over all past trauma? “

You:    I don’t think i will ever be completely healed, but definitely stronger than before 🙂

Me:   I am just curious about this statement. Do you still have unhealed trauma? Is it related to your mental health/ spiritual experience? What makes you think that it will never completely heal? 

You:   Yes, related to both. There’s this idea in Castaneda’s philosophy of the Yaqui where you are shielded to the worlds forces by innocence. Once you lose that innocence, your shields to the world are gone, and now you are alone and have to find ways of protecting yourself from the onslaught of the grown up world (the desert of the real to borrow another philosophy from Baudrillard) In this new realm you at the mercy of evil every day, and we have spoken about the tests we face. That is the part which cannot heal, and I don’t think it is meant to. 

I was very curious about this but did not want to push it at the time 🙂 

Laz 27/07/21:

It’s not so much the visuals but the knowing that I had been there, experienced something crawling out of the pit of hell. I guess seeing it presented to me unexpectedly was another test. I’m not sure what you mean by “accept” is this the non-duality thing?

I mean I’m going to sleep tonight, it’s not affected me that much that I’ll think about it for days. 

However I would state that one is not meant to get over it. I feel that becoming accustomed to evil is to start to become evil. Being afraid and pushing through it is a correct human response 🙂

What part does your curiosity focus on?

Jane 28/07/21:

No I am not referring to non duality levels of acceptance. I did not mean accept as to become like, or become accustomed to, I meant accept as in accepting that it does exist in the world as a part and fact of everyday life because it is a world of duality. It is something we can rid ourselves of but not others.

It is your fear of it that concerns me when there is nothing to fear but fear itself. But I am not standing directly in your shoes so I will respect your explanation…   

OK so, When I first read this I recognised that I have read this same concept from many different teachings and I saw it as a representation of the known natural progressive stages in human mind and spiritual development and explains what we go through and why we start to develop an ego, it comes in around 7 years old and learns to act as protector to find ways of protecting from the onslaught when we lose our source connection and thus innocence, detach from parents and venture out into the dog eat dog world. Alone to cope we become our own ego-driven master. I still don’t think you developed a full on ego. As it is only ego that “evil” can come from, I don’t think there is or ever has been any “evil” in you.

I know that you see evil around you and you forgive evil around you in your life but I don’t believe that your own personal consciousness has ever held it as in created it as energies. What these kind of teachings teach us is that those shields lost to the world can be regained or strengthened via the egg/aura/psychological mind shields that Don Juan talks about or similar yoga and Buddhist practices. I hope you slept well with no bad effects after your experience yesterday?  

Laz 28/07/21:

I can’t for the life of me think why you would be concerned! Feeling fear and carrying on anyway is showing that one is aware of danger, rather than unaware, but that it will not stop you 🙂

Slept well thanks, although woke up with a headache! Such is life 🙂

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