Jane 03/06/21:
Chapter 1. P7 What strikes me already is that this seems to be reading like the “universal laws of humanity” in psychology. How to remain sane (balanced) with the optimum psyche to survive whilst plugged into the matrix aka live life!
Because I am lost to the matrix and not plugged in it fascinates me how what matrix minds see as negative and mental health problem inducing (to the point of potential suicide) is my perfect lifestyle! 😀 Major Tom’s circuits are definitely dead! But there’s definitely nothing wrong 😀 Anyway, I only got to page 7, strange as I usually read really fast.
Jane 04/06/21:
I have reached page 17. What I am seeing is rules for living and plugging in, by necessity if you want a balanced mind and fair position in society. Rules for living “in the world”. Very different from being “in the world but not of the world”.. When Yoda says “you must unlearn what you have learned”. Kind of rings true here. I am really enjoying reading this but I am surprised by how slowly I am going?
Laz 04/06/21:
I would agree, Jordan is not someone who has escaped the matrix. He is firmly inside the game and thus his writing is also in that context.
Jane 04/06/21:
Never more so have I proven to myself that life truly is a state of mind. I discovered that happiness and freedom were states of mind early on. Even a prisoner can be free from the shackles in their own mind. Nothing has changed in my environment, everything in my physical life is the same but in consciousness everything has changed. Wherever I am I am I am staying put! I am laughing at myself because I noticed a little while ago that my mind has stopped swearing! I think that says it all…. 😆😂🤣
Laz 04/06/21:
Forgiveness and gratitude are like golden keys of happiness 🙂
So I’ve just finished rule 4 of Beyond Order, and I seem to find it in logical conflict with rule 3. Let me know if you also spot it when you get there 🙂
Jane 05/06/21:
I get the gist of this guys work in the first few pages of chapter 1 so now I can skip to chapter 3. Ok I will focus on chapters 3 and 4 ….tomorrow, in my reading time, now I have a focused goal of mental and intellectual reason and meaning to my actions, It will be interesting to me to see if my reading speed changes? I told you normally I read fast, and still fully process what I read so I was surprised because with its print size/words per page, I would normally have been through this book in a day? And before I even read and analyse it.
I smile at your question because I know that those who kind of know but have not escaped the matrix themselves are by definition still fully or at least partially plugged in so it is inevitable there is “logical conflict” in their mind realms and perceptions. That is simply par for the course….What I discovered is that “Source” is not logical to most human minds. Period! Because of the human conceptualised understanding of the term “logical”.
Logic actually has a limited vibration. That is why it takes a real mind shattering paradigm shift for people to break through that veil. Beyond logic! I guess it is a similar process to going beyond sanity. I think they are interrelated. 😀 Or is it? To you?
Laz 05/06/21:
I don’t know, for me logic is 2+2=4 and that can never change. A lot of opinion, which is even called “science” now, is simply someone’s view, and no data is presented to back it up, so I feel logic is and always will be the truth and regardless of how some people dress up illogic, that will always be false.
Jane 05/06/21:
Just reread this. I seem to have gone off track a bit in my ramblings in my last email. Lol. It was late, I tend to do that.
Laz 05/06/21:
No worries 🙂
Jane 07/06/21:
I have read chapters 3 and 4, twice, but I am unable to spot it. So I am going to need you to tell me 🙂 the information has kind of blurred into one in my mind. I have found it really strange to read the psycho-social rules of living “in the world” that no longer apply in my world due to a completely different mindset. (paradigm) But it is a good reminder of how ridiculously complex the set up in human psycho- social society is and the difficulties in tackling that once an individual is introduced into “the desert of the real” ….life!
Laz 07/06/21:
So in rule 3 he says that nothing should be left in the fog and unresolved, so let’s pick a scenario of an abusive relationship for example, the weaker partner should not accept the situation with a hope of change from their bullying partner which is never discussed and brought to light. They should resolve this and potentially end the relationship.
In rule 4 he says that faith and suffering is a necessary part of life and in the prior example the weaker partner should have faith in a change coming, and they should take accountability for where they are. He argues that one must set a goal and aim at it, without at the same time ditching your responsibilities.
So I see in these two chapters the age old battle between selfish behaviour and altruism and the two can’t both be achieved.
Jane 07/06/21:
Yes you are absolutely right but I think that no matter how much people like Jordan think they see, their view is always limited. By definition they are themselves still part of the warp and weft of the weave of the fabric they attempt to analyse. Contradiction is commonplace and it is funny when they claim to see contradictions in others work but obviously not their own, because they can’t. 😀
It is interesting to see what other people’s perceptions are in what accounts as the subjective state of happiness in their pursuit of it. I guess it is relative to age, the stage in life and place on their path. We both agree to the discovery that the secret to genuine happiness lies within ourselves and comes by way of forgiveness and gratitude. I am in the process of writing an email to explain how that worked for me 🙂 From what I know about you up to now I have a question for you that has been on my mind now for a while, Do you think that your ego ever fully developed?
Laz 07/06/21:
Did my ego fully develop? Hmmm, that’s a tough one…
So I had a hard time killing my ego and putting it in its place, the whole “why me?” & “I deserve better!” concepts took for ever to die. So I really had to work at it, where as some people seem to just have an easy time of awakening (at least that’s how they tell it) But I’m not averse to some having an easy ride.
If I had a leg up in life I’d say it was from being observant and having a father who was a narcissist and a mother who was an empath so I got that balance straight away. Their relationship is far from perfect and that let me see that life is a “too and fro” or a dance if you like.
I think probably I had a balanced ego, but not a maniacal control freak must always be right kind of ego. To this end I would say that perhaps what you refer to as a fully developed ego is maybe an out of control ego?
Jane 07/06/21:
Yes I guess that is what I meant. But you have a natural innocence about you that is non egoic. So are you saying that has that only come about since killing off what ego was there?
Laz 07/06/21:
You are asking some good questions today, really making me think 🙂 What has changed since…
So I no longer have a will to power, I don’t really have any ambition other than to help others. I easily took my most recent job at a £17k drop in salary, because I don’t care about the status of the high salary any more.
I am able to flow around and through problems that would have used to drag me down for a long time. You would have laughed at me yesterday, as I was driving I got caught up in a D-Day parade of WW2 jeeps and it made the re-enactors so mad, but I was like “shit happens” and moved on from it without guilt or fear, despite one woman dressed in uniform being livid with me and some guy on a motorbike threatening me through the car window (They were not nice people).
The big difference then is probably that I have no will to show off or pretend to be better than others, and shit that used to upset me doesn’t anymore, like hurt pride and such. I only do things that the universe asks of me and act as an agent for the source 🙂
With respect to innocence, I don’t see it in me. Sure i’m curious but as we shared before, I don’t consider myself innocent, I been through bad stuff in my life and most of the time don’t even notice. It’s only when I get chatting with someone else and they point out the differences to their life that I even notice. I seem to have lost the trainee feeling that I used to have as a young adult and have grown in to a mentor for others, so I can’t really relate. Do you really mean innocence, like is that the best word for it?
Jane 09/06/21:
Feedback on Chapter 5.
Minds of frogs sitting in the pan as the water around them heats up comes to mind 😀 The need for waking up and jumping out. Taking a stand. Being true to yourself even in the face of adversity. I agree that going against your own conscience is one of the most damaging and depressing for the psyche. Feeling powerless by weakness only exacerbates that.
I understand that if terms or words offend then we should give that consideration but this obsession with language and political correctness is part of the idiocracy as far as I am concerned. We cannot ban the whole English language. And the ridiculous “cancel” culture going on will eventually cancel all! Cutting off the nose to spite the face? It is as if people’s emotional bodies are over activated and over sensitive, or rather so unbalanced to the point of what I call emotional retardation. Taking offence at everything. Looking for offence where none is intended. It’s that immature level of tantrums.
I agree that ideally people should not be doing what they hate but in perspective as he says, that some jobs are menial and require acceptance of a lowly position if those are your current skills and abilities don’t bitch about it but instead work to improve your lot. We all start at the bottom rung in any profession or career. But having said that it is a workplace environment that makes all the difference. I discovered by experience in the workplace of the NHS that even a domestic cleaner is far happier if they feel valued and a part of the team rather than feeling like a scivvy! The only difference is in the way they are treated and feel perceived.
I can also see how a person with a communist-dominated style upbringing would find it incredible that people in the west seem to be so accepting of this almost unoticed crawl toward that totalitarian position that she was witnessing and she should know having a view and experience of both sides 🙂
I know that by having a job you absolutely love can feel like not working at all but people are very fortunate to find that. I hope you have 🙂
Laz 09/06/21:
I agree.
My job is okay, I mean I don’t hate it and there is a fare amount of creativity and originality in it 🙂
Jane 14/06/21:
I know it sounds a bit mad but as I have been reading this rule 6 I am starting to think that maybe we could be some sort of unique working examples of functioning minds of future man? Supermen. lol. What a strange thought? Lmao.
Laz 14/06/21:
Shit, I know! it’s me in that chapter! I have become Nietzsche.
I’m the one looking to individuals to find that gap of sanity between the loss of faith and the loss of caring. It’s weird because he is one of the first philosophers I studied, and I didn’t realise how much influence he had on me!
I have an issue with Jordan on his simplicity of ideology point. I get that taking a complex system and dividing it into a swallowable lump is not the best way to do things, in a fair and equal society. But look over the last year, we’ve been subject to this simplification with covid; stay at home, wear a mask, get the shot, take the test, have a vaccine passport.
All without any room for the complexity of people’s health (mentally as well as physically) being taken into account. Society does this simplification to us, so is it any wonder that we use it as a model of thought/behaviour and simply divide good from bad and right from wrong, left from right.
The number of times a “wrong doer” has said to me when I’ve confronted them “it’s not that simple, and there are grey areas” has been dozens, and they have used the grey to hide their wrongdoing and shame, justifying their behaviour as not as bad as someone else who was worse. This is the wrong way to look at the problem.
Jane 14/06/21:
Oh I am not surprised that you have discovered that you embodied Nietzsche : ) It’s funny because the moment I read the words “God is dead” I thought….don’t be stupid. I know the truth. I found it myself but I can see why it was said.
There have been times where I had began to wonder the same thing but only as related to the matrix world of man because I have no doubt : )
Laz 14/06/21:
That last bit of your email confused me, what is it you have no doubt of?
Jane 14/06/21:
That God exists even if it is not obvious to some. Its obvious to us when we experience and embody that energy ourselves.
Laz 14/06/21:
Hmmm, still confused. Are you referring to the existence of the Christian god?
Jane 14/06/21:
No our own inner “god”. That which only we alone can find.
Laz 14/06/21:
Ooh, I don’t think we’ve talked about this before. What is your inner god? Is that how you refer to the source of consciousness?
Jane 14/06/21:
My source of consciousness. Energy of Intelligent, evolving consciousness contained in every atom in the universe. Source experiencing itself. One that I feel like I am plugged directly into rather than the matrix.
To me “god” is kind of like the blueprint. In the same way “Christ” is like a blueprint. My inner “god”, once discovered immediately surrendered to the source. Maybe that’s the plan of how Source makes divine blueprints manifest?
Laz 14/06/21:
I have a bit more of a regimented view of this personally:
– The source of consciousness is out there in the universe, it is connected to all parts and maybe resides at the centre
– I have a piece of this consciousness in me, by virtue of being made of stardust
– My piece of consciousness is disconnected from the source, from birth
– I learned how to connect it to the source and can now communicate and share with the source
– I gave over my will to the source, and act for it now
– There are entities out there which claim to be our gods. I have no idea what they really are but I can communicate with them
– Not many people learn this
– I want to tell everyone else how to do it 🙂
Jane 14/06/21:
Can you expand on this entities point for me please.
Laz 14/06/21:
So you know I’m a skeptic right? We discussed it before when I was talking about communicating with the ascended masters. I have spoken to them, and yet I do not think they are as I imagine them. Some “spirit” for want of a better word claiming to be Jesus Christ for example, doesn’t make it so. It might be the spirit of Jesus, but it also might not be.
Jane 14/06/21:
Yes I know that you are a skeptic and rightly so : ) As already discussed to me the ascended masters were the archetype concept. I would study and meditate on Jesus or Buddha or Krishna or whoever to aspire to become them. If they are not how you imagined them then maybe you felt the energy as outdated or something?
I think these archetypes are becoming outdated.
Laz 14/06/21:
Outdated – there is something to that term which I can relate to. I mean the entity of “Jesus” telling me that I can go my own way with his blessing, suggests this!
Jane 14/06/21:
So how did you imagine them to be? How did you find them different to how you imagined them to be? It is true that by claiming to be something doesn’t make it so. I find that it is in the energy where such discernment lies. How does your energy respond?
Laz 14/06/21:
I didn’t imagine them to be any “way” before the experience, I didn’t even consider such a thing possible, and there is a battle to this day inside me like trying to trying to convince someone that I saw a flying saucer!
Jane 14/06/21:
Are you saying you saw a flying saucer here or just using it as an analogy?
Laz 14/06/21:
Thank you but I am now further confused. The flying saucer was just an analogy 🙂
Jane 14/06/21:
You are battling to convince yourself of your experiences? When you think about it, the whole thing is subjective and personal I think of it as a transfer of energy, that doesn’t mean we actually “see” it with our physical outward looking eyes. Hence the visions. If by the real world you mean the 3d realm then I am the same.
Laz 14/06/21:
If there was a part of my experience that I did question it was that I didn’t see anything with my eyes, nothing. Sure I had inner visions but nothing in the real world. I had feelings and heard things, felt things even, physical and mental sensations, but I have visually seen nothing spiritual.
Jane 14/06/21:
Truth vibrates at a much higher level than falsehood. We resonate with our own kind so anything claiming to be of Christ, say, would stand out from the crowd to us. It takes one to know one. It would feel familiar to us. If not then it is not of Christ. So, do you still have any negative encounters?
Laz 14/06/21:
I felt the high vibrations, and do not doubt the truth of the experience, and it’s benefits to me, but I do question its origin 🙂
Jane 14/06/21:
The very fact that you was “told” this suggests that the lessons of Christ’s teachings were no longer required. The foundations have to be laid down before we can be trusted and let loose to go on alone. Level up!
I can confirm to you that it all comes from within!
Laz 14/06/21:
I consider myself to be spiritually blind, for some reason.
Jane 14/06/21:
I used to look at other people’s experiences and thought of myself as less spiritual because I wasn’t having the same experiences. Then I realised that my third eye never opened to the matrix realms and I now believe it was because it is a trap. A spiritual plug – in that traps us by attachment to things like the shiddis. I perceived myself as being somewhat blind until realising that my third eye opened on a different level.
Laz 14/06/21:
There are these entities out there that will communicate with us, but what are they really? People in the past and perhaps simpler times have claimed them to be gods, but what if they are some multidimension alien, or what if they are some aspect of me like a delusion?
Jane 14/06/21:
They are archetypes, in the collective that we encounter, so in a sense they are aspects of us and of course in the past simpler times people claimed them to be God’s because they were characteristics or personalities to aspire to that had never lived. Seen way beyond normal man’s abilities but we are no longer living in those times. We all have that ability.
Also, I am aware the archetypes are 4th dimensional so it is from a different dimension than the 3rd, so it does seem otherworldly to us. (I know dimensions are difficult to grasp. It took me years.) The saying ..”when the student is ready, the teacher will come” I took to mean as our own inner teacher, it is this inner teacher that takes us into the realms where we encounter these archetypes along with lessons and tests. This is a well trodden part of the already known and documented path. What I do know is that when fully evolved, we are the multidimensional aliens. as in my understanding and definition of the term. Your lack of ego and purity prevent any delusions : )
Laz 14/06/21:
My battle is not one of “did it happen?” rather I am trying to understand where the experience came from, what was its form and substance? If it was all internal as you suggest, then I could just be deluded. However if there is something, not subjective, but scientific about the experience I want to explain it.
Jane 14/06/21:
Yes, I too would love to explain it scientifically but I have up to now not found the way to : (
There is nothing to see of the spiritual world with our earthly eyeballs?
Laz 14/06/21:
With respect to people reported that they see things, like angels, or god in the clouds, they are just bonkers then, in your opinion? There is nothing to see of the spiritual world with our earthly eyeballs?
Jane 14/06/21:
No I am not saying that at all. I have seen Jesus and god in the moon! I agree it’s all around us if we pay attention. I have seen many extraordinary things in the clouds with my earthly eyes. I would have said it was just my imagination but I have seen things so defined and got messages that way. I am talking about psychic abilities where people use third eye viewing for some sort of gain. Status or financial. Not that it is wrong but as I say it is an attachment to a skill.
Laz 14/06/21:
Okay, it’s just me being spiritually blind then 🙂 I can live with it.
Jane 14/06/21:
Why do you say that you are spiritually blind? When you are obviously not.
Are you only saying that because you have never seen such things yourself? To me being blind means not “seeing” as in grasping something on the level of understanding. Spiritual blindness to me means being asleep.
Laz 14/06/21:
So I mean physical earthly eyeball blind. People report seeing all sorts of things out there in the 3d matrix world. I’ve never seen anything of a spiritual nature. No ghosts/spirits/entities/apparitions/angels/demons/gods.
All I’ve ever seen is people (humans) acting strangely 🙂 I’ll never likely have a Moses burning bush moment.
Jane 14/06/21:
I don’t share your skepticism : )
Ok so what if I ask you about your imagination? You obviously have a highly developed one to be an author of novels. But what about when you look visually? Have you never seen images in things like creases in a sheet or formation of clouds? Not necessarily spiritual but a recognisable image. I see faces a lot in things but apparently we are programmed as humans from babies to see faces in things around us.
Have you ever given any thought to the fact that you have a genetic mutation that would obviously make things different for you? You are not like other people. This is a reason to not compare yourself to others because it’s like comparing a different species, almost. It is pointless. Does that make sense to you?
Laz 14/06/21:
I’ve often wondered if my migraines are a glitch in my genetics, perhaps a break in my human construct. That is the only visual weirdness I’ve ever experienced with my eyes open. I do of course get Pareidolia like everyone else, but I do not consider that anything spiritual.
I don’t compare myself to other Neurotypicals, but with spiritual people of history. They all saw things in the 3d realm, with their physical eyes. So this is why I think I’m spiritually blind.
Jane 14/06/21:
The only thing I could call “spiritual” in that sense was many years ago seeing bearded faces that my own imagination made out of the shadows on the moon. I was high at the time so maybe that explains it. …Would you call that spiritual sight? Because that’s all I’ve got on that one! Lol. As I say I really don’t think you can put too much emphasis on other people’s experiences anymore the clue being in the word “history” and one I see as being outdated for those who are of a new generation. A new mutation. To me as part of human evolution our multiple bodies are being activated and evolving meaning experiences are new in mind, psychology, emotions, sensations etc. I see you as being highly spiritually evolved even if you don’t : )
Laz 14/06/21:
Spiritually evolved I can accept, and please don’t get me wrong, I’m happy with my lot. But I still wonder why I’ve not had any visual experiences, nothing appearing to me like one reads.
For your experience with bearded faces, it’s very hard for me to judge. I could only assume that if you think it was, then it must be so. I’m kind of back in the explaining a UFO sighting to someone else here, you may know 100% that it was real, but how does one convince someone else!
On you Inner God idea, I’m still a little unsure what that means, are you able to explain it in terms of holography, or mental illness, or of human beings being a radio receiver? I can’t quite grasp what your inner god is.
Jane 14/06/21:
That is one of those questions I am going to have to ponder on and get back to you on….. 🙂
I was suggesting that this experience was due to my imagination in an induced altered state and not a true spiritual vision. I am not sure what kind of vision you mean? I have had no others with my physical eyes only the inner ones and they are more a knowing rather than a seeing.
Laz 14/06/21:
Okay, I understand 🙂
Jane 15/06/21:
Since getting back “home” out of the matrix again fully I have my old consciousness back and psychological freedom of mind. I feel absolutely no mental pressure and I am back in my divine realm, I am not saying that I am God but like you I am on the same wavelength as that energy that is a servant working for God.
However, I will say that I am my own individual little “inner god” of myself not the big boss God of other people. My inner god is independent and self contained in that I have everything I need within me. I am never more happier than when I am in my own company, just left alone with myself to do my own thing…and as it turns out all that is is God’s will anyway.
So as you know the god as perceived “out there” and the god that is perceived “in here” have to be assimilated. Like a union with God I suppose.
Laz 15/06/21:
Reminds me of a quote: “If someone asks if you’re a god, you say YES!”
This messes with my head a bit, and i think it is the concept of claiming god status. To me “God” whether little or big is a human 3d like construct, a way of thinking about our existence for those who are asleep. It’s a useful shortcut but it’s doesn’t feel to me like the right term for the awakened. I’m not saying you are wrong, but that it doesn’t work for me, and i don’t think i could describe myself in those terms. If “Inner god” helps you, keep at it 🙂
Jane 15/06/21:
That contact with Source does this. Below 600 on the scale of consciousness a saviour is required and god is seen as being outside of us. Once contact is made with the higher self we recognise the god within and the route to psychological freedom because we can become self contained as our own little god by self mastery and the conquering of the fear that comes from the need for an external saviour. (basically the fear of death)
Laz 15/06/21:
100% agree with this part, and that again for me is part of the awakening. Once awake and like up at 1000 on Hawkins scale you see that no saviour is needed.
Jane 15/06/21:
Isn’t that a bit like what your concept of individualism is?
Laz 15/06/21:
No, my point with individualism is that you do not need the human constructs of a church, or a congregation, you certainly do not need a hierarchy of importance of church people, and that you can find the source of consciousness all on your own. The idea is to cast off any shame/guilt/fear of not being worthy yourself, and stop trading in your ability for the ceremonies of a religion.
For me the source of consciousness is the real “god” and the Christian man in the clouds watching you is bunkum for those who are asleep. So going a step further then, I carry in me a piece of consciousness that was separated form the whole, like lighting a stick from a fire and walking away from the source with it. But, I am a big dumb meatbag and certainly no god. I was always warned about claiming godhood and certainly went through that phase of my growth, but was thankful for the warning post awakening.
One may stay asleep their whole life in the Matrix and never know they have this fire inside of them, and disassociate from the possibility that their consciousness means anything. It is even possible that some people (the soulless) do not even have a fire within and for them there is no hope. But for those that do, they can learn how to bridge their small fire to the furnace of the source of consciousness, and communicate with it though Kundalini vibrations. This still does not make the 3d matrix meatbag a “god” in my personal view. I think there is a chance after death of this small lit stick returning to the source of the fire and joining in union with the furnace, but that can only happen after death, so for now I can only learn and create as much stuff as I am able to bring the furnace new fuel upon release from the body.
From a holographic point of view, the lit stick is ethereal and the meatbag is a projected body from a projector outside of the 3d realm (in which being the hologram may itself contain smaller copies of itself to infinity). My consciousness (my little lit stick) is outside of the projection and not in the hologram, but thinks it exists inside of the hologram and this is the main delusion of associating the material world with the spiritual world. Maybe the source creates the hologram for it’s fire children to play in? Maybe the fire kids are scouts in a dead world, and upon return the source decides what to do with that world? Maybe this is a school for learning and upon death we graduate to something else if we have met the pass grade?
Jane 15/06/21:
God is described as omniscient, omnipresent. An inner god like consciousness does seem to have an all seeing eye but from a human little god level or perspective so it is not some magical thing or something that is on constant watch, as in seeing all and knowing all simultaneously as God would be, it is simply the ability to see the truth of what is from a big picture perspective on anything you focus on. Individual, collective or planetary. It comes from having a non duality position. No right/wrong or black/white perceptions with a god like neutrality. It is cosmic consciousness.
I have no idea about the omnipotent bit, apparently I am like a Jedi, because I am not allowed to volitionally interfere to find out. Lmao. I can identify my last mission in the matrix as an “Ok jane so what would God do here” one. Running through my own consciousness/mind/life experience so hopefully I think I’ve done my time in that matrix dimension.
Thinking about it, as a concept In comparison to others I would say that your genetic mutation is a closer to god one, how apt 🙂
My thoughts on Holography. I think I am right that from a more cosmic perspective we agree on the world being a hologram, a hologram is a projection via a light source. On a planetary perspective in the same way every part contains the whole in a hologram, as every individual cell of a body contains the whole in DNA, so we are made in the image of God, therefore an individual own god is contained within each piece. Requiring an awakening of the higher self to be realised, It comes as you say from the divine spark within us all, made of the stardust we all came from and the projection of light through the hologram hitting the awakened spark will be it’s energy source in human beings. Including that thirst quenching spiritual daily bread so to speak for the mind.
Maybe this light source is a more scientific explanation of our “creator”? As I have said I experience what feels like a holographic self contained unit in my shamanics. In this experience I feel like I am everything and every part of the experience the producer, player, instruments, music like everything multidimensionally and the person/mind that seems to be directing it is me? In that moment I know I am my own god but just within my own self contained unit.
Nb: When you described individualism it kind of rang a bell for me about this experience.
My thoughts on Mental illness. From a generalised perspective as a society mental health problems shows we are human and where we are going wrong if only we cared enough to look. I know now that all psychological mind problems are due to a spiritual imbalance because I had many before starting my path. I had several addictions that literally disappeared instantly like magic on the first day of my 40 day experience. Things like cigarettes, weed, medication I was taking and addicted to basically everything stopped!
I don’t know if my psychological problems were gone instantaneously too or were about to be worked on in my following 40 day psychodrama period? Deprogramming. When I look at mental illness as defined by the medical profession I have many of their “symptoms” or what is perceived to be problems. I guess they are if your perception of normal is being plugged in : D
Things like disassociation, derealization, depersonalization, antisocial, I’d probably be seen as having a personality disorder…lmao. Well when you cannot tolerate humans I suppose to matrix people that is the definition. Lol. Living in a different reality, seeing the world as an illusion is seen as being crazy mental to these limited matrix minds? I consider myself to be supersane and them blind.
I do have symptoms of OCD of my mind but I think source uses that when I am on a project doing God’s work/will. I think some sort of experience of what is called mental health problems is a prerequisite for psycho-spiritual work. It kind of kicks the mind into gear and maybe psychodrama episodes (deemed to be a psychosis) are a normal part of that as a process? I believe so. Then it is in recognition of our own psychological problems once awake that helps us on our way.
Laz 15/06/21:
Yeah, it’s like a loosening of the bindings that held the meatbag down, like a snake shedding its skin and for a while being soft and vulnerable until the new skin hardens.
Mental illness from my perspective now, as I am sure with your own can be easily distinguished from a spiritual emergence/awakening and in such cases intervention with the right therapy could lead to a far smoother path and recovery. I think it is our cultural ignorance that is at fault in the absence of recognition of the problem or solution as well as our culture and way of life that causes the mental health problems in the first place.
My thoughts on Radio receiver. As with everything in the universe radio waves are energy. We have already established that the mind is both receiver and transmitter. Depending on the equipment determines what frequencies we can pick up. able to receive. When I get a light download I have explained how I stop transmitting thoughts and switch to open to receive. Because there are no words transmitted to me I only realised it was happening when I found that I knew things that I had no idea about before or I would do things as if a plan had been made that I was unaware of yet was automatically putting into action. I know that I did a lot of my inner learning that way in the early days, it is far less an occurrence now.
Our whole being is a receiver of energies unfortunately whether wanted/welcomed or not. We are bombarded mentally, physically, emotionally. Until we put our mental shields up we are psychologically powerless to a lot of them. So my question in relation to yours is would you say that we “receive” Kundalini energy in this same context? Is it picked up? I am not sure how it is picked up? Is it like the “radio” signals go straight to the brain/mind as receiver point or is it straight to the chakra/hara as receiver point? Or Is our auric egg “touched” as in from an electro/magnetic energy from outside and then the energy gets circulated inside the egg? Or is it even picked up as in received at all or do we self generate it all within our own auric fields? I find that one hard to believe from personal experience and from observations on my own experiences I have not worked that one out yet. Maybe it comes directly from that projected light that is illuminating the hologram? I don’t know if it is something like a radio wave external that I receive but I have throughout experienced occasional short bursts of High pitch notes or tones in my ears. ( I remember that I used to believe it was aliens communicating to me. Lol ) Or that could be self generated too as in simply tinnitus? It’s hard to know sometimes or figure this stuff out.
Laz 15/06/21:
Thank you for this, you are really stretching my understanding of myself with these comments and it is great 🙂
When you read Castaneda you will see this, and know you were correct 🙂
I think joy comes from the understanding someone/something has my back and there is nothing to fear, that those petty earthly worries mean nothing. It is like seeing your mother across the way and knowing she is watching you play, as opposed to not knowing where your mother is and being fearful to do anything for it might be the wrong thing and you might be told off later.
I think that Kundalini is the 3d realm matrix like bridge to the source for the meatbags to connect with their mother consciousness. It is like Neo in The Matrix touching the mirror and having it swallow him up to pop him out in the Desert of the Real and wake up in his battery pod. As best as I can determine Kundalini Shakti is the energy that opens up all of the aerial structures in the body, through the chakras in preparation for communication with the source.
I wonder if the feelings of bliss are the filling up of the fuel needed by the meatbag body to perform communication and then the vibrations themselves are the messages from the source, the radio frequencies that we tune into to listen to the programmes from different aspects of the source.
I now enjoy the 3d world, knowing that my mother is watching me, and awaiting for instructions to carry out the sources wishes. Ego has gone from me, and I no longer seek to implant my will upon the world, I have no desire to to make my meatbag name great, and I wish only to leave a legacy of documenting how to reach this understanding, not for the glory of myself, but for the praising of the source such that others can awaken.
I think I may put this on my website, it has been revelatory to write and to comprehend, so thank you for pushing me 🙂
BTW: I still struggle to understand non duality, and it feels to me, maybe incorrectly, like fence sitting 🙁
Jane 16/06/21:
So as I say I have not watched the Matrix films but in your email you made specific reference to a scene, so I looked on YouTube. This is what I found.
https://youtu.be/NpyaKWY9HOcIt
It was so weird straight off when it says…”buckle your seatbelt Dorothy because Kansas is going bye bye”..
My friend lived in Kansas, the focus of my mission. Lol. This bloody film! Lol. I seem to have lived it? Watching this scene I fully understood Neo’s experience symbolically. But the whole thing is out of context for me…I cannot recognise where he is at the end of the scene. As in when it ends and they say …”welcome to the real world” are they saying that because he is “home”? Like a homecoming welcome back out of the matrix?
Or are they saying that as in a form of sarcasm referring to the taste of the matrix world that he just experienced? I cannot tell by the tone of expression in what is being said especially out of context and being unfamiliar with the characters.
Laz 16/06/21:
I also have lived it 🙂 You really need to watch the whole movie if you can, even if it’s in bite size pieces over many days. The real world isn’t home as such as Neo grew up inside the matrix. This was his awakening into the real world, from the fake one. One where all of his beliefs and thoughts are shattered and he finds that he is nothing but cattle for the machines to farm.
Jane 16/06/21:
Thanks. Yes you are right i should try to watch it for myself, I have found the first film in bitesize bits so I will try to do that 🙂
Boy it’s hot today. I don’t tolerate the sun that I used to worship whilst in the Matrix at all anymore. It’s strange because when I expanded from the planetary system to the great central sun as my source I didn’t feel reliant on the planetary sun anymore, as if I had an inner connection to my own sun energy and my lack of sunlight, full daylight even for 2 decades has had none of the usual detrimental effects this would ordinarily cause to my physical vehicle. I love your term “meatbags”
Jane 17/06/21:
I have finally got into it.:) I don’t think I was supposed to watch this film before this point in time? I have watched a bit of it and I am hooked 🙂 It’s like when you recognise something that you have experience of. Even the physical fighting is an accurate dramatisation of what we experience mentally. I have a question for you, did you ever feel like you were living a double life?
Laz 17/06/21:
No the only thing close is that I felt there was another version of me out there, somewhere!
17/06/21:
I am multitasking; still reading chapter 7 of Beyond Order and I have watched the first matrix film 🙂
It was really cool. But I want to know more now.. I am going to continue on and watch the Matrix reloaded next. I found that one in bitesize pieces too 🙂 Hope you are doing ok?