Jane 22/03/21:

As I see it and understand it the main body of so called evidence for past lives is from children who record past life experiences in their conscious awareness. They are still plugged in to the higher realms and still connected to source. Until their ego comes in at around ages 7/8 where they have to lose the mental realm apron strings of parent and have to become independent.

Matrixees. In those higher realms is the Akashic records, everything is recorded in energies that ever has happened. Our very paths that we, you and I are living in energies right now are being recorded right now in fact as we communicate. I told you we need to cut our own path! Outside of the box, aka matrix. Peoples lives therefore are like packets of conscious lived energy of information and at frequencies these kids can pick up. It wasn’t their life! 

Under hypnosis that is performed in past life regression in adults the mind can tap into the same realms. Again, not their life! Btw; In that Akashic records the living energies as lived of Christ never existed, Buddha never existed as actual lived energies to be recorded as real lives, they were archetypal concepts for us to follow. But their “teachings” are in the collective because they are mythical archetypes, taught in religion and mythology. Downloaded information via channels.  Repeated through the ages.

There has become a western obsession with believing in reincarnation, maybe partly due to the above phenomena?  But that is the path for humans to evolve Christ brought salvation, Buddha brought enlightenment. The Christian energies are transcended into the Buddha energies that have a higher frequency. We have to transcend step by step. As individuals as well as collectively. I went through my Buddha phase and did believe in all of the above. So much so that when I knew I had passed what they state as being beyond karma and never having to return for a rebirth. I thought what that meant, not having to do this path again. Dropped into this fucking matrix but taken back with no memory back to the start. Having to do that battle again to defeat. I was so delighted I sobbed! 

Laz 22/03/21:

Completely agree with these statements 🙂

Jane 22/03/21:

That wide eyed innocence of yours is paradoxically what has been your ally into that mastery of self. If we do not feel that we are progressing spiritually we are not living! It is our daily bread so to speak. My friend was a starchild too. I didn’t know for sure before today that you were one. On that note thinking about it, I have absolutely no idea who or what the fuck I am! The last time I identified myself as in terms of my known human ego persona I used to class myself before my path started, it was as an atheist. I think I’ve done the polar opposites paths? As in full both sides balanced of a full swing of the pendulum of human experience? 

Once I had psychoanalised the shit out of the whole concept of reincarnation from a detached intellectually rational human psychological and cultural perspective in the matrix from outside the matrix . I thought, Ok I see there is positive and negative at play…let them get on with it….duality at play. That from my perspective actually shows an opportunity for balance. Then it became part of the 4th dimensional that no longer exists to me. I transcended it. 

Ok evolution of the very concept of reincarnation. Form of control. Negative pole. In India there are 3 castes of people,  lower, middle and upper. They hate each other with a vengeance and are not allowed to mix or interbreed. The lower literally clean up the shit. The lower castes are lead to believe that if they are good lower castes they will be reborn into a higher one. They are lead to believe that if they are not willing subordinates they will reincarnate into an animal or lowliest insect creature. I mean, ffs! but lmao at the same time.

Laz 22/03/21:

I know what you mean about the caste system, I worked with some Indian programmers of differing castes, presumably upper and middle, and the upper ones treated the lower so badly. It was as you say shocking to witness. In our culture it would have meant a complaint and a trip to HR for a serious meeting! But it was accepted by my company because they were foreign contractors.

Jane 22/03/21:

See I find it shocking but I just laughed at the absurdity of humans self programme software. Human emotions. Positive pole. By believing that we can and do come back in cycles until we “get it right” gives those who are awake but not progressing as much as they perceive a comfort in that thought that we can always try again. 

Laz 22/03/21:

I had not previously considered it a safety blanket for the awakened! I must admit to looking upon reincarnation as an excuse of the unawake, a lullaby so they feel they don’t have to try in the this life. I know for me I was always keenly aware of how little time we have in life and to move positively in my growth. 

Jane 22/03/21:

In unrequited love they believe there is a soulmate out their so they will get another chance. The belief in reincarnation is an emotional attachment to the ego and human physical body. Sometimes an attachment to the mind. I mean take Walt Disney a supposed ascended master who has his brain frozen in a cryogenics laboratory hoping he can be resurrected! 

They say it takes hundreds of lives to be lived as it is such an almost impossible challenge they don’t think it’s even possible to do in one lifetime. Limited believing inside the box. Because, Oh yes it is! It has to be because we only get one chance. But it takes a thinking outside the box! Everything I transcended on my path I believed in at one point because I had to at that time in order to progress to the next stage. It was stepping stones. Like level up in a computer game. My truth became fluid. 

The Buddhist analogy of the tree branches that are rigid break with the wind, whilst those that are flexible move easily and flows with the wind is a good one. However. What is true on one level dimension is not necessarily true on another. It changes with paradigm shifts. Even the laws of relativity are different. I had to fully understand the 4D collective before I could dump it. All religions. All of human psychology. The collective consciousness. When I say I see information in 3D, 4D and 5D, this is what I mean.

I read stuff that can be 90% accurate but some of it is bullshit to my knowledge awareness wisdom. But I also absolutely get that it is not bullshit to other people. Paradoxically it is the exact opposite. In the 4th dimensional cons consciousness awareness. There are intelligent western people including it in their work and saying even in the bible it has been written by quoting “unless a man be born again he cannot enter the kingdom” that is not what it meant, it meant a born again Christian. Not a new incarnation. But it’s there for a reason to be misinterpreted maybe designed to draw the Christian mindset? 

Like you said people in the matrix NEED TO BELIEVE in something and that 4D stuff religious or otherwise is what they grasp at and believe because that’s all they know. It’s like a blind baby looking for the teat to suck on to replace the source connection that they lose. Until contact is made with their own inner “god” the higher self they look outside of themselves for a saviour. And I would not want to deprive the people of that stepping stone available knowledge.  They need Jacob’s ladder, they need their 4th dimension. They need each other to function as a whole. 

Laz 22/03/21:

I’m not sure what you mean by Jacob’s ladder, I’ll look it up, but at the movement it has two meanings. 1) A really long set of stairs in the German Hartz mountains that I visited once. 2) That weird film with Tim Robbins!

Jane 22/03/21:

Of course my friend wanted to destroy the whole 4th dimension. He lit a fire to do it it in his first psychosis and went to jail for it. Living with masons. The next psychosis he punched through a window, what he perceived as what was blocking him. He couldn’t transcend it so in his frustration and perceived persecution by humanity aka the matrix around him, he felt trapped. Like a rat!

He told me about many described visions of blowing the whole fucking matrix up! Lol I mean I don’t blame him. I got where he was coming from. I have turned the corner now about him because when I talk about him I am starting to see the humour, without the meltdown emotions.  He was so funny. As I now remember the experiences we shared I also remember the humour we used to share. That was what levelled us out in times of crisis. I laugh now, not cry. Thank you Laz for being there for me, source was right.

Laz 22/03/21:

It’s funny there are people out there who appear to be old souls and wise beyond their years, I always figured that they were going around and around in reincarnation and slowly working towards salvation, but given your explanation maybe I need to view them as “stuck” and actually tragic figures who cannot move past the failings of their previous decisions! 

I also conversely feel that it is strange that if this is my first time around, as I feel, I am doing so well in my progress! It doesn’t make sense, but it’s all the divine plan I guess. (get back in your box Ego!)

Jane 22/03/21:

There is a higher level of ego, the spiritual ego. There is nothing wrong with realising we are progressing so well, if we didn’t we would not get the incentive to keep going. As long as spiritual pride is kept at bay. Once people start believing they are superior to their fellow men, they become as charlatans. As you have said surrender and acceptance is the key, it becomes like flow of energies, once that has been established it becomes the path of least resistance. We can soar! 

It’s all about vibrations and it’s all about mind. “When the pupil is ready their teacher will come” When we reach a certain vibration and way of thinking, it opens up to our own inner teacher. We start to attract knowledge and information that resonates at the higher level of vibrations.

Laz 22/03/21:

As to what you are, I would suggest that you are a guide for others as I hope to be, that you are that Bodhisattva consciousness, who knows but doesn’t transcend out of love for your fellow travelers 🙂

I mean, thank you for your thanks, i’m not sure i deserve any as i’m getting a lot out of this discussion with you myself. So thank you 🙂

Laz 22/03/21:

Oh! Jacob’s ladder is significant! I’ve just watched that Tim Robins movie. When I had that vision then, I was 100% correct:

“I watch it slowly create itself like a ladder of light off to my right and I am pleased to see it formand grow into the distance. I get the feeling that I must follow it, not here in this experience, but back in my life on planet Earth. I know not where it leads but I feel that it is my destiny to follow it wherever it goes, I have a hunch that it leads to heaven, or whatever non-Christian abode lies beyond the stars.”

I’ve looked up it’s meaning and it was a similar “dream” that Jacob had and meant that he was chosen with the obligations and inheritance of the people chosen by God. Oh my!

Jane 22/03/21:

Oh my! You crack me up.

Laz 22/03/21:

So would you say that this alien feeling is somehow prideful and egoic?                 

The Oh my! comment was me suddenly feeling the pressure to perform! Until now I’ve thought of my discoveries as finding a lost path, but to think I’ve been chosen, that changes thing up a bit

Jane 22/03/21:

Absolutely not. The alien feeling is authentic because that’s exactly what it is. Many are called but few are chosen. I think that’s because we give ourselves to it? 

Laz 22/03/21:

Just had the NHS on the phone, pressuring me to go get a jab. I said I won’t take it. They repeated back to me;

“you’d prefer not to have it”        

“No, It’s not a preference. I will not take it.”        

“Oh, that’s not an option on our drop down menu.” The operator said.                

No thought, no questioning, no independent beliefs from that operator! Brrrrr, whizzz, beep, boop, drone operator resetting for next caller 🙂

Jane 22/03/21:

Laughing my arse off! I could see an image of that as I read it. It would make a funny comedy sketch. 

Laz 22/03/21:

Now there’s a thought!            

*searches for free animation studio online*

A certain song comes to mind!        

Jane 22/03/21:

Yeah with that as the soundtrack. Perfect. I had to ask my friend to do this, I know it sounds weird. If I know the lyrics to a song it is fine but if I’ve never heard it before I need lyrics on screen. Otherwise I have to google for the lyrics to read along with it. I have strange hearing, I cannot always make out the words of what is being sung. Yeah I know…..my friend used to call me a weirdo all the time. 🤯😳🤪

I just had a thought. If the vegged out Bodhisattvas believed in reincarnation it would give them less inclination to come back? These type do the path for their own benefit.

Laz 22/03/21:

Not sure i understand you, and i can read your statement a couple of ways. I would suggest that the Bodhisattva role is eternal, and regardless of reincarnation, out of love they serve the source and try to help other humans awaken. If they are tied to reincarnation to perform the same job over and over, then that is the way things are! By definition they stay behind even when they could and perhaps should ascend, imagine the firefighter that keeps going back into the burning building to try to rescue another from the flames.

Jane 22/03/21:

Ok then maybe it wasn’t the Bodhisattva state? It is like the people you see in India that are basically rooted to the spot. Some have meditated in a pose like with a hand in the air. They get stuck like that like a statue. They are gone.

I understand completely how difficult it is to come back down. It was literally like hell trying to reground. I had a few aborted landings before getting it right. Those as described above cannot get back. I know that their consciousness helps to raise humanities vibrations but they are done on earth. Maybe they are not what you define as a Bodhisattva?  

Laz 22/03/21:

There is this idea too that i’m reminded of from Alan Watts:                

“And you suddenly see through the whole sham thing. You realize you’re That—we won’t put a name on it— you’re That, and you can’t be anything else. So you are relieved of fundamental terror. That doesn’t mean that you’re always going to be a great hero, that you won’t jump when you hear a bang, that you won’t worry occasionally, that you won’t lose your temper. It means, though, that fundamentally deep, deep, deep down within you, you will be able to be human, not a stone Buddha—you know in Zen there is a difference made between a living Buddha and a stone Buddha. If you go up to a stone Buddha and you hit him hard on the head, nothing happens. You break your fist or your stick. But if you hit a living Buddha, he may say ‘ouch,’ and he may feel pain, because if he didn’t feel something, he wouldn’t be a human being. Buddhas are human, they are not devas, they are not gods. They are enlightened men and women. But the point is that they are not afraid to be human, they are not afraid to let themselves participate in the pains, difficulties and struggles that naturally go with human existence. The only difference is—and it’s almost an undetectable difference—it takes one to know one.”

Jane 22/03/21:

Yep! That explains everything.  

Laz 22/03/21:

So you were thinking of a stone buddha?

Jane 22/03/21:

Exactly! Like you say they are fake gurus. They just get wheeled out into public markets and the masses revere them and give them money for a good luck blessing. But I guess there is no other way for them to survive? Crazy world!

Reading all the do’s and don’ts in other people’s paths like Don Jaun’s I realise that by losing my own will and letting source take over meant I didn’t need them. I had absolutely no idea what I was doing. And by not putting too much analysis to it, even when it didn’t make sense to me…or was beyond my logic, meant I just accepted and allowed. Even the craziest shit that went on. Most of it forgotten because it was altered states. Because I documented everything is the only way I could reflect with hindsight to grasp what I was actually doing. I was always in awe of how I was being lead. 

Laz 22/03/21:

Yup, me too! I just surrendered and acted upon divine instruction. While Castaneda’s writings are a lot of fun, I didn’t follow it 🙂

Jane 22/03/21:

Yes it is crazy, and only getting worse!

Laz 22/03/21:

I got in touch with this author who wrote a book on female kundalini, and she tells of her experiences with a fake guru, who was an abuser. It was a great read and I really felt for her and others in that position of needing an abusive father figure. So we got talking and she tried to recruit me into this other “cult” and in looking at the guy at the head of the organisation he too appeared to be an abuser! Such a weirdo, would arrive at his “show” and just stand there in front of his loving disciples, and then walk off without saying anything to them. I read that he believed he had already given all that he needed to, and said that he did not have the energy to keep doing it. To me this seemed to be a narcissist that was bored and couldn’t be bothered anymore. 

Jane 22/03/21:

Yes definitely a narcissistic egomaniac.  There are a lot of them about

Laz Divine